Home > Copyfight
AUTHORS

Donna Wentworth
( Archive | Home | Technorati Profile)

Ernest Miller
( Archive | Home )

Elizabeth Rader
( Archive | Home )

Jason Schultz
( Archive | Home )

Wendy Seltzer
( Archive | Home | Technorati Profile )

Aaron Swartz
( Archive | Home )

Alan Wexelblat
( Archive | Home )


Support Bloggers' Rights!
Support Bloggers' Rights!

About this weblog
Here we'll explore the nexus of legal rulings, Capitol Hill policy-making, technical standards development, and technological innovation that creates -- and will recreate -- the networked world as we know it. Among the topics we'll touch on: intellectual property conflicts, technical architecture and innovation, the evolution of copyright, private vs. public interests in Net policy-making, lobbying and the law, and more.

Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this weblog are those of the authors and not of their respective institutions.

What Does "Copyfight" Mean?

Copyfight, the Solo Years: April 2002-March 2004

COPYFIGHTERS
a Typical Joe
Academic Copyright
Jack Balkin
John Perry Barlow
Benlog
beSpacific
bIPlog
Blogaritaville
Blogbook IP
BoingBoing
David Bollier
James Boyle
Robert Boynton
Brad Ideas
Ren Bucholz
Cabalamat: Digital Rights
Cinema Minima
CoCo
Commons-blog
Consensus @ Lawyerpoint
Copyfighter's Musings
Copyfutures
Copyright Readings
Copyrighteous
CopyrightWatch Canada
Susan Crawford
Walt Crawford
Creative Commons
Cruelty to Analog
Culture Cat
Deep Links
Derivative Work
Detritus
Julian Dibbell
DigitalConsumer
Digital Copyright Canada
Displacement of Concepts
Downhill Battle
DTM:<|
Electrolite
Exploded Library
Bret Fausett
Edward Felten - Freedom to Tinker
Edward Felten - Dashlog
Frank Field
Seth Finkelstein
Brian Flemming
Frankston, Reed
Free Culture
Free Range Librarian
Michael Froomkin
Michael Geist
Michael Geist's BNA News
Dan Gillmor
Mike Godwin
Joe Gratz
GrepLaw
James Grimmelmann
GrokLaw
Groklaw News
Matt Haughey
Erik J. Heels
ICANNWatch.org
Illegal-art.org
Induce Act blog
Inter Alia
IP & Social Justice
IPac blog
IPTAblog
Joi Ito
Jon Johansen
JD Lasica
LawMeme.org
Legal Theory Blog
Lenz Blog
Larry Lessig
Jessica Litman
James Love
Alex Macgillivray
Madisonian Theory
Maison Bisson
Kevin Marks
Tim Marman
Matt Rolls a Hoover
miniLinks
Mary Minow
Declan McCullagh
Eben Moglen
Dan Moniz
Napsterization
Nerdlaw
NQB
Danny O'Brien
Open Access
Open Codex
John Palfrey
Chris Palmer
Promote the Progress
PK News
PVR Blog
Eric Raymond
Joseph Reagle
Recording Industry vs. the People
Lisa Rein
Thomas Roessler
Seth Schoen
Doc Searls
Seb's Open Research
Shifted Librarian
Doug Simpson
Slapnose
Slashdot.org
Stay Free! Daily
Sarah Stirland
Swarthmore Coalition
Tech Law Advisor
Technology Liberation Front
Teleread
Siva Vaidhyanathan
Vertical Hold
Kim Weatherall
Weblogg-ed
David Weinberger
Matthew Yglesias

LINKABLE + THINKABLE
AKMA
Timothy Armstrong
Bag and Baggage
Charles Bailey
Beltway Blogroll
Between Lawyers
Blawg Channel
bk
Chief Blogging Officer
Drew Clark
Chris Cohen
Crawlspace
Crooked Timber
Daily Whirl
Dead Parrots Society
Delaware Law Office
J. Bradford DeLong
Betsy Devine
Dispositive
Ben Edelman
EEJD
Ernie the Attorney
FedLawyerGuy
Foreword
How Appealing
Industry Standard
IP Democracy
IPnewsblog
IP Watch
Dennis Kennedy
Rick Klau
Wendy Koslow
Kuro5hin.org
Elizabeth L. Lawley
Jerry Lawson
Legal Reader
Likelihood of Confusion
Chris Locke
Derek Lowe
Misbehaving
MIT Tech Review
NewsGrist
OtherMag
Paper Chase
Frank Paynter
PHOSITA
Scott Rosenberg
Scrivener's Error
Jeneane Sessum
Silent Lucidity
Smart Mobs
Trademark Blog
Eugene Volokh
Kevin Werbach

ORGANIZATIONS
ARL
Berkman @ Harvard
CDT
Chilling Effects
CIS @ Stanford
CPSR
Copyright Reform
Creative Commons
DigitalConsumer.org
DFC
EFF
EPIC
FIPR
FCC
FEPP
FSF
Global Internet Proj.
ICANN
IETF
ILPF
Info Commons
IP Justice
ISP @ Yale
NY for Fair Use
Open Content
PFF
Public Knowledge
Shidler Center @ UW
Tech Center @ GMU
U. Maine Tech Law Center
US Copyright Office
US Dept. of Justice
US Patent Office
W3C


RECENT COMMENTS [xml]
Recent Trackbacks
May 2012 (15)
April 2012 (18)
March 2012 (23)
February 2012 (23)
January 2012 (17)
December 2011 (19)
November 2011 (5)
October 2011 (10)
September 2011 (11)
August 2011 (15)
July 2011 (4)
June 2011 (15)
May 2011 (5)
April 2011 (8)
March 2011 (8)
February 2011 (6)
January 2011 (6)
December 2010 (2)
November 2010 (2)
October 2010 (8)
September 2010 (3)
August 2010 (6)
July 2010 (11)
June 2010 (11)
May 2010 (5)
April 2010 (12)
March 2010 (10)
February 2010 (10)
January 2010 (15)
December 2009 (3)
November 2009 (9)
October 2009 (4)
September 2009 (3)
August 2009 (10)
July 2009 (5)
June 2009 (6)
May 2009 (6)
April 2009 (5)
March 2009 (6)
February 2009 (7)
January 2009 (4)
December 2008 (13)
November 2008 (4)
October 2008 (12)
September 2008 (7)
August 2008 (7)
July 2008 (1)
June 2008 (7)
May 2008 (4)
April 2008 (7)
March 2008 (9)
February 2008 (16)
January 2008 (14)
December 2007 (9)
November 2007 (8)
October 2007 (7)
September 2007 (14)
August 2007 (19)
July 2007 (10)
June 2007 (14)
May 2007 (11)
April 2007 (4)
March 2007 (4)
February 2007 (9)
December 2006 (3)
November 2006 (11)
October 2006 (6)
September 2006 (5)
August 2006 (6)
July 2006 (2)
June 2006 (11)
May 2006 (18)
April 2006 (15)
March 2006 (15)
February 2006 (18)
January 2006 (7)
December 2005 (16)
November 2005 (41)
October 2005 (60)
September 2005 (52)
August 2005 (82)
July 2005 (56)
June 2005 (115)
May 2005 (89)
April 2005 (150)
March 2005 (177)
February 2005 (101)
January 2005 (58)
December 2004 (58)
November 2004 (32)
October 2004 (49)
September 2004 (44)
August 2004 (52)
July 2004 (83)
June 2004 (61)
May 2004 (55)
April 2004 (61)
March 2004 (62)



Subscribe with Bloglines




Creative Commons License
In the Pipeline: Don't miss Derek Lowe's excellent commentary on drug discovery and the pharma industry in general at In the Pipeline


Copyfight


May 18, 2005
Pesce Late to the Game, Still ThoughtfulEmail This EntryPrint This Entry
Posted by Alan Wexelblat

So, having read part one of Mark Pesce's series on television piracy, I can say "welcome" to another copyfighter, albeit one who has a lot of catching up to do.

Pesce seems to think that the story starts with Battlestar Galactica and BitTorrent in late 2004. Um, no, I'm sorry. I was watching Babylon 5 episodes with vast groups of MIT geeks as soon as someone could snatch the downloaded signal off the satellite, days before the local affiliates broadcast it. Friends of mine have been going to Buffy parties and participating in other TV-show sneak-preview distribution networks for years. So yeah, BitTorrent makes it easier and having broadband makes it available to more people, but it's not really new.

Pesce's next point is that BitTorrent creates a kind of "hyperdistribution" in which the net becomes more efficient at distributing media than broadcast possibly can. Again, not really news. To pick just one non-random example, Nicholas Negroponte has been saying things like this for years (see Being Digital for example).

Pesce is also wrong when he calls out region-specific/live broadcasting as "unsuitable" for hyperdistribution. He should study some of the history around the Cartel's attempts to cut off TiVo's distribution features because they break region locks for things like blacked-out sports events. Trust me, there's an audience for this.

What Pesce is really trying to write is his analysis of the potential commerical models that hyperdistribution enables. Assuming that the Cartel called off its attempt to smash BitTorrent, and called off its jihad against its TV-viewing customers, it might consider some of what Pesce is offering in the way of alternative business models. He notes that station id 'bugs' are permanently etched on most TV shows now. I find these logos incredibly annoying, but Pesce seems to think it's a good place to put station-independent "advertiser payloads" (why does this remind me of "deaths by friendly fire?"). He notes that some advertisers are already doing this, as well as experimenting with different forms of embedded (and thus less skippable) advertising.

Mark has correctly noticed that television revenue is directly proportional to audience size - that's the metric advertisers use - and that BitTorrenting the content only builds audience. So in theory it should make economic sense to build a business around this. However, what he's failed to realize is that the Cartel are impervious to economic analysis, as it's oil to their water.

Welcome to the copyfight, Mark; you've got a lot of catching up to do.


Category: Big Thoughts


COMMENTS
Copyrighter on May 18, 2005 08:36 PM writes...

Just as "the Cartel" is impervious to economic arguments, "Pirates" are impervious to admitting that much of the effort behind new technologies is designed to steal content. As much as you'd like the Cartel to admit their economic arguments are overblown, they'd like you to admit that a lot of people do use BitTorrent, et al. to acquire content for free.

Seems like a standoff.

Permalink to Comment

Mark Pesce on May 19, 2005 02:07 AM writes...

While I do appreciate the kudos, I ahem haven't been late to the game. Far from it. If you look back a solid 20 months, you'll see a continuous series of works (mostly on the AFTRS website, www.aftrs.edu.au) that illustrate the evolution of my thinking.

Cheers,

Mark

Permalink to Comment

Branko Collin on May 19, 2005 06:25 AM writes...

"admit that a lot of people do use BitTorrent, et al. to acquire content for free"

You may want to rethink that; there is nothing wrong or illegal with acquiring content for free.

Permalink to Comment

Dr. wex on May 19, 2005 08:02 AM writes...

To add to what Branko has said I'm not going to claim responsibility for others' statements but I believe it's acknowledged in MGM v Grokster that 90% of the activity on the net may be illegal. Coincidentally, this is the same percentage of illegal use that was estimated for the VCR at the time.

Mark, I'll take your point that you've been writing on this stuff for a while and therefore stand even more confused at your ahistorical approach to the topic. Care to elaborate?

Permalink to Comment

Copyrighter on May 20, 2005 03:33 PM writes...

Branko,
Actually if it's content that the content owner is charging other people to have and access and is not making generally available to the public for free, then yes, there is something VERY wrong with acquiring it for free. This is the problem: amoral people like you who want to have the fruits of other people's labor for free, whether they be physically or intellectually based.
Unfortunately, the Copyfight armada is composed of three groups:
1. People who understand that copyrights as they are established currently do have some flaws that could be improved.
2. People who support emerging content distribution platforms for legal means.
3. People who want to steal content. (Which seems to about 90% of the real reason.)
I'm all for intelligently reforming copyright to intelligently safeguard producers of content in the new technological world. I am not for disabling the economic systems so that thieves can steal.
I don't have any rethinking to do. However, you may want to look in the mirror. Or maybe you have and you've decided that an amoral life of theft is the path for you.

Permalink to Comment

Neo on May 21, 2005 02:38 PM writes...

Well, it seems we have a new forum troll: Copyrighter.

What he'd like us to believe: in making a copy of something you can somehow be stealing.

The truth: there is no evidence that filesharing is taking money from the deep pockets of greedy corporations, let alone from poor artists. There is circumstantial evidence that filesharing is having almost exactly no effect on corporate bottom lines and is helping obscure artists, and obscure artists could definitely use the help.

The three major stake holders are as follows:

Consumers benefit from cheaper/free access to content, to the extent that this doesn't stop more content being produced. Lots of music and other content was produced for tens of thousands of years before there was a Statute of Anne, let alone DRM and the DMCA, so it seems likely that consumers benefit maximally if there is zero copyright law whatsoever. (There are 30,000 year old cave paintings. In the US, they may actually be eligible to enter the public domain soon ;P)

Artists benefit from some weak protections, but they don't benefit from anti-filesharing activity. They might benefit from stronger trust busting and anti-payola laws however. Their biggest threat isn't greedy thieving downloaders, it's greedy thieving major labels. For them, a business model based on people having electronic versions for free and paying for concerts, big screen big sound, or other performances, for memorabilia or other tie-ins, and for "100% genuine" physical media, perhaps including fancy-packaged limited edition versions. CDs with "Buy buying the songs on physical media you are helping support the artists you love" on the packaging, etc. Not having their work attributed to someone else is also something artists tend to want. So is having as wide an audience as they can reach.

Big companies, especially in a cartel, benefit from crushing competition, limiting entry to the market, controlling distribution, and artificially inflating prices, while diverting as much revenue to themselves as possible, leaving the artists with a pittance.

Also, be it noted that the consumers and artists are individual human beings, while big companies are not and have no particular rights to existence and do not deserve our sympathy. Unlike human beings, they have no feelings or cares, and they tend to have no conscience.

So it's pretty clear our system should ignore the goals of large companies and consider those of consumers and artists. Consumers outnumber artists but without art there are no consumers of art. So, I'd say go with what's behind door #2: protection against bootlegging physical media and fraudulently entering live performances, but leaving filesharing alone. Forcing the distributors to compete with free should make them shape up. Make the law make it plain that there is no such thing mentioned in the Progress Clause as *distribution* rights and make it a right for artists to terminate any contract with a distributor and take their business elsewhere at any time, and the companies will quit abusing artists, quit abusing their customers, and things just might get a whole lot better. I hope.

Dropping the stupid laws regarding recording in a theatre or other performance house should be high on the agenda too. Shaky camcorded low-res footage of a theatre screen and occasionally the back of someone's head can only serve as free advertising for a movie. Only if the movie sucks is it likely to reduce box office revenues; and if the movie sucks, it doesn't deserve those revenues anyway. Protecting sales of a bad product through enforcement of consumer ignorance of how good or bad the product is until they've purchased an instance of said product is definitely not the purpose of copyright law or any other law.

Permalink to Comment

Branko Collin on May 21, 2005 04:43 PM writes...

Ah, the famous "labour should be remunerated" argument. Funny how there is not a single law or opinion in this world to support that, yet proponents of stronger copyright always keep dragging its dead corpse into the arena of the copyfight.

Pray tell, copylibel, why should work be rewarded? Should this concept of a state enforced reward be restricted to the products of creativity? If so, why? If not, then what kinds of labour should also lead to instant remuneration?

Permalink to Comment

Mark Pesce on May 25, 2005 04:26 PM writes...

Elaboration: The 2nd article published *anywhere* about Napster was by yours truly. In FEED Magazine, back in the day. It would have been the 1st article, only Stephen Johnson wouldn't believe that it was a worthy subject until Janelle Brown published her piece in SALON. So I lost out by a week. Whaddeva.

That entire semester - which spanned the rise-and-fall of Napster - my class at USC Cinema School got a bellyful from me about the changning role of copyright. Did we understand any of it at the time? No. This was the opening of 2000, and, quite frankly, none of us understood anything. It's arguable whether any of us understand anything now.

I just spent the last two days in Tihany, Hungary, scaring the bejesus out of the leaders of Hungary's media industries. Did I have answers for them? Not really. Did I have questions for them? Plenty. Questions they needed to ask themselves.

There are no easy answers. This is not a simple buggy-whip versus combustion engine sort of transition. It's not just money that's at play. It's not just careers and reputations. It's more than all of this, and while copyright looks to be the center act, it's really nothing more than a distracting sideshow. The real work - still to be done, though I'm doing what I can - will come from a study of the behavior of the audience swarm. Now that the audience has control of distribution, what does that mean for the audience? Can we even talk about an "audience" anymore?

Stuff like that.

Permalink to Comment


TRACKBACKS
TrackBack URL: http://www.corante.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-pcorso.cgi/11661




POST A COMMENT
Name:

Email:

URL:

Comments:

Remember personal info?



EMAIL THIS ENTRY TO A FRIEND
Email this entry to:

Your email address:

Message (optional):




RELATED ENTRIES