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The gist isn't terribly surprising - recipes get copied around a lot. Anyone who has ever been in the restaurant business knows that innovations are often quickly scooped up and duplicated. I've known chefs to dine at competitor's places while in disguise, to plant employees into rival chefs' kitchens, and other dirty tricks. So copying a recipe that someone posts on the Web is not a big shock.
There is real money involved here, in that some sites charge fees to access online recipes and many sites depend on traffic. If a copy of a site's recipe gets higher rankings on a Google search then it may divert traffic from the originator. All of which brings us back around to the question of what constitutes fair use. As I noted in the original discussion of Attributor, one of their major claims is to provide a platform on which such conversations may be constructed..
Recipes are particularly tricky to think about, as they're combinations of a fairly limited set of ingredients in fairly standardized ways. If I'm going to whip egg whites for my cake I'm likely to do it in one of about four ways, all of which are well-known. There are good physical chemistry reasons why I have to whip the whites and then fold in other ingredients - I can't simply reorder the steps. It's pretty clear that a simple list of ingredients isn't protected by copyright. Even if I find a new combination of spices to make my cake amazing, just listing that combination isn't enough to qualify.
Beyond that, cooking is very much a derivative art. Recipes and techniques get copied all OVER the place. Chefs learn their trades through long apprenticeships and often start by making close copies of things they learned from their mentor chefs, but with their own variations added. Attributor may be doing a good job of showing off its technology here but they're not adding anything to the discussion about what is or is not fair use of a recipe.
I work at Attributor and helped put together the study. You're right, recipes are a tough category - only the directions or commentary are likely copyrightable. Our service addresses that by excluding the ingredient lists from the % match analysis, we also employ similar logic in other categories, such as a quote in a news story.
By using objective factors - amount used, commerciality, and attribution - we enable rights holders to more easily and subjectively evaluate matches as a business opportunity, fair use, or perhaps just great promotion...
Hi Matt! I generally agree with your point, which is that you're doing a good job of showing off what your tech can do. I just think that "recipes" is a gnarly category that needs to be sorted out in the political/social/legal arena.
1. Matt Robinson on October 18, 2007 1:22 PM writes...
I work at Attributor and helped put together the study. You're right, recipes are a tough category - only the directions or commentary are likely copyrightable. Our service addresses that by excluding the ingredient lists from the % match analysis, we also employ similar logic in other categories, such as a quote in a news story.
By using objective factors - amount used, commerciality, and attribution - we enable rights holders to more easily and subjectively evaluate matches as a business opportunity, fair use, or perhaps just great promotion...
Permalink to Comment2. drwex on October 18, 2007 1:46 PM writes...
Hi Matt! I generally agree with your point, which is that you're doing a good job of showing off what your tech can do. I just think that "recipes" is a gnarly category that needs to be sorted out in the political/social/legal arena.
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